James V: Translation

1513, 26 November, Perth, General Council

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26 November 1513

Procedure: deliberations concerning the Scottish ambassadors' mission in France

At the general council held at Perth, 26 November 1513, these lords underwritten convened: that is to say, the most reverent and reverend fathers in God James [Beaton], archbishop of Glasgow, chancellor, William [Elphinstone], bishop of Aberdeen, James [Chisholm], bishop of Dunblane, Andrew [Stewart], bishop of Caithness, David [Hamilton], bishop of Argyll, Edward [Stewart], bishop of Orkney, venerable fathers in God John [Hepburn], prior of St Andrews, George [Crichton], abbot of Holyroodhouse, Robert [Shaw], abbot of Paisley, William [Turnbull], abbot of Coupar [Angus], Henry [Orme], abbot of Lindores, James [Hepburn], postulate of Dunfermline, John [Home], abbot of Jedburgh, Patrick [Panter], postulate of Cambuskenneth, Andrew [Stewart], postulate of Caithness, Master Gavin Dunbar, archdean of St Andrews, Master Robert Forman, dean of Glasgow, Master Walter Drummond, dean of Dunblane, for the spirituality; noble and mighty lords Colin [Campbell], earl of Argyll etc., James [Hamilton], earl of Arran, James [Douglas], earl of Morton, John [Stewart], earl of Lennox, William [Hay], earl of Erroll, Alexander [Lindsay], earl of Crawford, William [Keith], earl Marischal, John [Stewart], earl of Atholl, Gilbert [Kennedy], earl of Cassilis, Hugh [Montgomery], earl of Eglinton, Alexander [Home], lord Home, John [Drummond], lord Drummond, John [Fleming], lord Fleming, John [Oliphant], lord Oliphant, John [Erskine], lord Erskine, William [Ruthven], lord Ruthven, Robert [Maxwell], lord Maxwell, John [Forbes], lord Forbes, Ninian [Ross], lord Ross [of Hawkhead], Robert [Crichton], lord Sanquhar, William [Keith], master of Marischal, John [Montgomery], master of Montgomery, William Murray of Tullibardine, William Menteith of Kerse, Patrick Crichton of Cranston, Patrick Hamilton of Glencavill, knights, David Bruce of Clackmannan, Andrew Kerr of Ferniehirst, Sir James Shaw of Sauchie, knight, Philip Nisbet of that Ilk, Alexander Home of Spott, Gilbert Menzies [of Findon], provost of Aberdeen, Alexander Blair, provost of Perth, and Master James Wishart of Pittarrow, justice clerk, upon certain matters proposed by Monsieur Labatie, Frenchman, and Master James Ogilvie, Scotsman, ambassadors to the Most Christian King, Louis [XII], king of France, sent to [James V], the king's grace, [Margaret Tudor, his mother], the queen, the three estates and to the great council of Scotland, having sufficient power thereto, and especially regarding two articles. That is to say, the first making mention how that beyond memory of man there has been an alliance and confederation between the kings of France of Scotland, as at more length is contained in the same, observed, ratified and kept between the said kings, their realms and lieges and all there, last ratified, renewed and confirmed between the said Most Christian King, Louis, now king of France, and James IV, last king of Scotland, whom God absolve, and kept to this day, the which Sir Anthony and Master James, ambassadors foresaid, showed in the presence of the said lords above-written that it was liked by and pleased the said king's grace of France to have the said old alliance and of new made between the said kings of before confirmed and ratified under the said kings' great seals authentically, and desired the lords foresaid in the name of the king's grace of Scotland to consent to the said ratification and confirmation and to send their ambassadors with sufficient power to the said Most Christian King for the same. Secondly, the said ambassadors showed how it was desired by [James Hamilton], earl of Arran, and [John Fleming], lord Fleming, being now lately in France, sent by the king's grace of Scotland, whom God absolve, to serve the said Most Christian King in his wars, that since the said king of Scotland, together with many of his nobles and lieges, was slain and destroyed in battle now in Northumberland by the enemies from England, principally in the quarrel of France, it would please and be liked by the said Most Christian King to send [John Stewart], duke of Albany, with his help and munitions and with all manner of necessities of war to the realm of Scotland for the defence of the young king of Scotland, the queen, his said realm and nobles, as the letter of state of the said Most Christian King and the response to the said articles and certain others subscribed with his hand more largely purport. And the said ambassadors desired that the foresaid lords there presently whether they thought it was expedient and would consent that the said Duke [of Albany] should come home or not to the effect foresaid. The which ambassadors being removed and departed from the said lords, and the said lords conversing and debating about the said two articles and of all the circumstances of them and thereafter fully advised, all in one voice, decided as to the first article they thought that this alliance and confederation was made, observed and kept of so long a time between the kings of France and Scotland and all this last between the king of France that now is and our sovereign lord, whom God absolve, that last deceased, they could not consent to give counsel to weaken or violate the said confederation in any point, but were content and consented presently that the said alliance and confederation, old and new, should be confirmed and ratified between the said kings of France and Scotland that now reign, and that ambassadors should be sent with sufficient power and commission to the realm of France for the confirmation and completing of the same in all points and in all possible haste. And as to the second article expressed above, all the lords foresaid consented that the Duke of Albany should come home to the realm of Scotland for the helping of the said realm and against their enemies of England, to do service to the young king, queen and realm in the said defence, with all munitions for war that could be got and obtained from the said Most Christian King, and with him Sir Robert Stewart and all the Scottish men now being in France that could get license from the said Most Christian King to come with him for the defence foresaid; and, failing that the said Duke of Albany might not come for cause of death, in that case the said lords refer the person to be sent for the defence foresaid with the said munitions to the wisdom and discretion of the said Most Christian King, and Robert Stewart with the Scotsmen to come with him as said is, providing always that the person of the most noble king of Scotland be surely kept well in his young age and after the tenor and plan of [James IV], the king's grace, whom God absolve, made in his last will and testament thereupon etc.

  1. Original source not yet found. See APS, ii, pp.281-2. Back
  2. 'abbot' in superscript, replacing deleted 'postulate'. Back
  3. Sometimes spelt 'Painter' or 'Paniter'. Back