17 September 1641

[Petition of Mr William Turnbull for the passage of the gift of John Turnbull through the exchequer]

To his sacred majesty and honourable lords and estates of this present parliament, humbly means and shows I, your servant Master William Turnbull, minister at Makerstoun, that where the late John Turnbull of Minto, my brother, contracted sickness in the public service in the army at Newcastle, where he remained a long space and thereafter departed this life, whereby the gift of the ward of his land and marriage of John Turnbull, his eldest son, now falls in your majesty's hand, therefore I beseech your majesty and estates foresaid to give order to [Sir James Carmichael], his highness's treasurer depute, and other lords of exchequer to pass the signature presented to them which is signed by your majesty in my name of the said gift of ward and marriage of the said John Turnbull, my nephew, which is taken to his behalf of consent of his special friends. And that upon such reasonable composition as your majesty and estates foresaid shall think expedient.

17 September 1641

His majesty, with advice of the parliament, appoints the treasurer depute and lords of exchequer to pass the gift written within freely, and appoints the clerk to give the duplicate of this deliverance under his hand for their warrant.

[John Elphinstone, lord] Balmerino, in presence of the lords of parliament

  1. NAS, PA6/4, 'September 17 1641'. Back
  2. This clause is written on the rear of the document. Back
  3. NAS, PA6/4, 'September 17 1641'. Back
  4. Original not yet found. Source is APS, v, p.665. Back
  5. NAS, PA6/5, 'November 17 1641'. Mistakenly filed under 17 November instead of 17 September. Back
  6. 'To 52' written in margin. Back
  7. Original not yet found. Source is APS, v, p.666. Back
[Petition of Alexander Ramsay for passage of his gift through the exchequer]

To the king's most excellent majesty and the honourable house of parliament, I, Alexander Ramsay, son lawful of the late John Ramsay of Balnabreich, and brother to the late James Ramsay, son natural to the said late John, my father, humbly shows that where I, as brother to the said late James Ramsay, have obtained the gift of his bastardy under his majesty's hand, which gift [Sir James Carmichael], treasurer depute, and other lords of exchequer will in no way pass, complete and deliver to me without a composition be paid thereof, albeit it was intended by the honourable estates of parliament that the heirs, executors and nearest friends of such as should happen to die in the public service should be used with all kind of favour and receive all such courtesies as the king and estates might grant in their behalf. And true it is that the said late James Ramsay, my brother, was killed in the conflict at Newburn, being a trooper in the company under the commandment of Captain Graham, as is well-known to the whole commanders who were then present. Therefore it is humbly desired by me that a warrant may be granted and directed in my favour to the treasurer depute, lords of exchequer and others whom it concerns to pass, complete and deliver to me the foresaid gift already granted in my favour, and that without payment of any composition. Therefore in respect foresaid and I shall ever as bound in duty pray etc.

17 September 1641

Read in audience of his majesty and estates of parliament, who granted the desire thereof.

Alexander Gibson

  1. NAS, PA6/4, 'September 17 1641'. Back
  2. This clause is written on the rear of the document. Back
  3. NAS, PA6/4, 'September 17 1641'. Back
  4. Original not yet found. Source is APS, v, p.665. Back
  5. NAS, PA6/5, 'November 17 1641'. Mistakenly filed under 17 November instead of 17 September. Back
  6. 'To 52' written in margin. Back
  7. Original not yet found. Source is APS, v, p.666. Back
[Minutes of the meeting of the nobility regarding the king's nomination of officers of state, council and session]

17 September 1641

At the meeting of the nobility in the afternoon

If his majesty shall be humbly entreated before the parliament takes the list of councillors to consideration to condescend upon a definite number of the council, yes or no.

If his majesty shall be entreated that he may be pleased at the humble desire of the estates to nominate the officers of state before the parliament take the list of councillors to consideration, yes or no.

Resolved upon the first question affirmative. Likewise resolved affirmative upon the second question.

1. That the definite number of councillors be known.

2. That such councillors be named as will undertake to attend.

  1. NAS, PA6/4, 'September 17 1641'. Back
  2. This clause is written on the rear of the document. Back
  3. NAS, PA6/4, 'September 17 1641'. Back
  4. Original not yet found. Source is APS, v, p.665. Back
  5. NAS, PA6/5, 'November 17 1641'. Mistakenly filed under 17 November instead of 17 September. Back
  6. 'To 52' written in margin. Back
  7. Original not yet found. Source is APS, v, p.666. Back
[List of persons nominated by the king to be officers of state and council]
Officers of state
Chancellor
[William Douglas], earl of Morton
Treasurer
[John Campbell], lord Loudoun
Privy seal
[Robert Ker], earl of Roxburghe
Secretary
[William Hamilton], earl of Lanark
Clerk register
[Sir Alexander Gibson of] Durie
Advocate
Sir Thomas Hope [of Craighall]
Treasurer depute
Sir James Carmichael
Justice clerk
Sir John Hamilton [of Orbiston]
Master of requests
Sir James Galloway
  1. NAS, PA6/4, 'September 17 1641'. Back
  2. This clause is written on the rear of the document. Back
  3. NAS, PA6/4, 'September 17 1641'. Back
  4. Original not yet found. Source is APS, v, p.665. Back
  5. NAS, PA6/5, 'November 17 1641'. Mistakenly filed under 17 November instead of 17 September. Back
  6. 'To 52' written in margin. Back
  7. Original not yet found. Source is APS, v, p.666. Back
[Minutes of the meeting of the commissioners of the shires regarding the nomination of officers of state, council and session]

Seeing the words of the act are that his majesty will nominate and make choice of such able and qualified persons to fill the places as shall be fittest for his service and may give most contentment to the estates of parliament and that he will make the said nomination and choice with the advice and approbation of the estates:

It was queried:

If the parliament may give his majesty their advice before the nomination and if, in their advice, they may condescend upon the persons' names whom they think fittest for his service and their contentment.

Question

If those who have been out of the country during the time of the troubles (giving that they were well affected) shall be paralleled by the king and parliament in the election to eminent places with those who have gone along with the country in her bygone extremities, and if the parliament can give their advice to the election of them as being the fittest men considering the present condition of time after such long troubles, yes or no.

Resolved by the barons upon this question negative.

  1. NAS, PA6/4, 'September 17 1641'. Back
  2. This clause is written on the rear of the document. Back
  3. NAS, PA6/4, 'September 17 1641'. Back
  4. Original not yet found. Source is APS, v, p.665. Back
  5. NAS, PA6/5, 'November 17 1641'. Mistakenly filed under 17 November instead of 17 September. Back
  6. 'To 52' written in margin. Back
  7. Original not yet found. Source is APS, v, p.666. Back